Your layout is obviously more fragmented but I wouldn't say that it makes the piece abstract. (That's not to say I don't like it.)
Did you paint this one? http://tiny.cc/m1TtS It might qualify as an 'abstract comic'. Did you intend for the panels to be read sequentially or are they just there to divide the different areas in the picture?
Well, the term abstract, in its original sense, implied representation, though a simplified, exaggerated, distorted, etc. interpretation thereof. Though the term is used interchangeably with what is more accurately described as "non-representational" or "non-objective" art, which also describes much of the content of this blog. Again, "abstract" is the more popularized term, (and indeed was used to describe the historically first Western attempts at non-representaional art -- Kandinsky, Malevich, et al) though their efforts were only arrived at after the original strategies for abstracting from life, which on this side of the world, (the conventional wisdom is) began with the Impressionists. That, of course, is a huge generalization of over a hundred years of art history, so...
I did indeed paint said image...I employ the panels as foundational elements; for me they function as sequential panels and as more painterly abstract elements. They are pages trying to become paintings, paintings trying to become pages.
It's fairly representative of much of my output -- www.jasonramos.com
Hi Jason--I too really like your paintings. I would love to see an expansion of the way you use panels there into something like a longer-form abstract comic (a painting a page?). But without giving up the surface texture, the painterliness you have in your paintings--that's what I find beautiful.
The artists assembled by Andrei Molotiu for his anthology ABSTRACT COMICS (Fantagraphics, $39.99) push “cartooning” to its limits... It’s a fascinating book to stare at, and as with other kinds of abstract art, half the fun is observing your own reactions: anyone who’s used to reading more conventional sorts of comics is likely to reflexively impose narrative on these abstractions, to figure out just what each panel has to do with the next.
--Douglas Wolk, New York Times Book Review, Holiday Books edition, December 6, 2009 The collection has a wealth of rewarding material... it is a significant historical document that may jump-start an actual new genre.
--Doug Harvey, LA Weekly It becomes a treat to take a page of art - or a simple panel - and consider how the shapes, texture, depth, and color interact with one another; to reflect on how, when one takes the time, the enjoyment one ordinarily finds in reading a purely textually-oriented, narrative-driven written story can - with the graphic form - be translated into something completely different.
--Adam Waterreus, Politics and Prose, "Favorite Graphic Literature of the Year."
...this arresting book is like a scoop of primordial narrative, representational mud. Which is to say, it has vitaminic powers.
--Design Observer
For years, comics (at least American ones) have doggedly refused for one reason or another, to consider other schools of art and beyond mere representation. It's only now we see artists attempting to branch out and try to push at the edge's of the medium's definition. As such I found Abstract Comics to be a revealing, thought-provoking and genuinely lovely book that I'll be sure to be rereading in the months to come.
This is an interesting blog.
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http://jasonramos.blogspot.com/2009/05/untitled-avant-garde-comic-1.html
Hey Jason, thanks for looking.
ReplyDeleteYour layout is obviously more fragmented but I wouldn't say that it makes the piece abstract.
(That's not to say I don't like it.)
Did you paint this one? http://tiny.cc/m1TtS
It might qualify as an 'abstract comic'. Did you intend for the panels to be read sequentially or are they just there to divide the different areas in the picture?
Thank you for looking/reading.
ReplyDeleteWell, the term abstract, in its original sense, implied representation, though a simplified, exaggerated, distorted, etc. interpretation thereof. Though the term is used interchangeably with what is more accurately described as "non-representational" or "non-objective" art, which also describes much of the content of this blog. Again, "abstract" is the more popularized term, (and indeed was used to describe the historically first Western attempts at non-representaional art -- Kandinsky, Malevich, et al) though their efforts were only arrived at after the original strategies for abstracting from life, which on this side of the world, (the conventional wisdom is) began with the Impressionists. That, of course, is a huge generalization of over a hundred years of art history, so...
I did indeed paint said image...I employ the panels as foundational elements; for me they function as sequential panels and as more painterly abstract elements. They are pages trying to become paintings, paintings trying to become pages.
It's fairly representative of much of my output -- www.jasonramos.com
Hi Jason--I too really like your paintings. I would love to see an expansion of the way you use panels there into something like a longer-form abstract comic (a painting a page?). But without giving up the surface texture, the painterliness you have in your paintings--that's what I find beautiful.
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